Insusi Domnul Isus invata pe ucenicii Lui sa se roage Tatalui. Nici-o data nu vedem ca Maintuitorul ar fi spus vreunuia sa se roage Lui. El a mentionat sa ne rugam Tatalui in numele Domnului Isus.Iata dce unii au ajuns sa se roage duhului sfant contrar cu invatatura pe care Biblia o arata.

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Știm toți că formula rugăciunii este : ,,Ne rugăm Tatălui, în Numele Fiului și prin Duhul Sfânt“, dar asta nu înseamnă că Biblia ne interzice să ne rugăm Fiului și Duhului Sfânt.

Lui Ezechiel i se spune clar să vorbească Duhului (Ezec. 37:9), apostolul Ioan ne spune că Domnul Isus i-a îndemnat pe ucenici să ceară și El va face (John 14:14, “If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.” ). În Faptele Apostolilor, martirul Ștefan se roagă Fiului: ,,Doamne Isuse, primește duhul meu“ (FA 7:59).În finalul Apocalipsei, noi spunem Amin! la o rugăciune a Duhului Sfnt și ne adresăm direct Fiului: ,,Vino, Doamne Isuse!“ (Apoc. 22:17, 20). Cele trei persoane ale Sfintei Trinități sunt … persoane și putem sta de vorbă cu oricare dintre ele.

De fapt, conceptul de trinitate este prea complicat pentru ca să ne închipuim că atunci când vorbim cu Tatăl, nu vorbim și cu Fiul și cu Duhul Sfânt …

(We believe that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God, but they are not each other. We call this “the Trinity.” But when we pray, to whom do we pray? Do we pray to the Trinity (as an ontological unit)? I start prayers out this way all the time: “Dear God, ….” I can see the members of the Trinity looking at each other in confusion as they attempt to figure out which one I am praying to. “Ummm, I think this one is for you, Jesus,” says the Holy Spirit. “No, it is for the Father,” Jesus responds. “Not me! He just said ‘God.’ That could be any one of us.)

Părera dumneatale este cam îngustă. Ai ajuns să scrii Duhul Sfânt cu litere mici, dar îi acuzi pe alții că greșesc …

Iată câteva păreri în limba engleză:

In 1 Cor. 1:9 it says, “God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.” The word “fellowship” is the Greek word koinonia which is also translated as the word “communion.” 1 Cor. 1:9 says that we are to have an intimate fellowship with Jesus. That is fine. But, how can we have fellowship with someone with whom we never talk? Therefore, this verse can also be used to support the idea of praying to Jesus.

In Heb. 4:14-16, believers are encouraged to “draw near to [Christ’s] throne of grace” in order to obtain His assistance. Surely, “drawing near” requires prayer. At the end of Revelation, in 22:20, John directs a simple prayer to Jesus, crying out, “Come, Lord Jesus”.

Psalm 116:4 says, “Then I called upon the name of the Lord: ‘O Lord, I beseech You, save my life!’ What is interesting is that this phrase is applied to Jesus in 1 Cor. 1:2.

Și iată cum răspunde la această întrebare John Piper:

A podcast listener named Joe writes in to ask a perplexing question faced by us all: “Should I pray to Jesus, or to the Spirit, or to the Father?”

It is remarkable, Tony, how many people over the years have asked me this question. It is just one of the most common and it is a good one. And I think I understand why it comes up so much, because we have traditions that most of us grew up in and we wonder: Well, is that tradition the only permissible way? For example, most of us — it is true for me and my family — most of us in the evangelical family probably grew up beginning our prayers with heavenly Father or our Father or dear Father and ending them with: In Jesus’ name. Amen. That is a liturgy that we just learned. Pray to the Father, close in Jesus’ name. Amen. And, frankly, I am going to argue that is a great tradition. I think children should grow up with that form as the main form of their prayer. Pray to God the Father in the power of God the Spirit, in the name or by the authority and the merit of God the Son. That is the trinitarian structure mainly of prayer in the Bible.

And so it is not surprising that it is profoundly rooted in Scripture. So Hebrews four. Since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession for we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are yet without sin. Therefore — crucial word — therefore, let us with confidence draw near to the throne of grace. We only can come to God in prayer pleading for grace, because we have a high priest, which is why we pray in Jesus’ name. I would never let my kids… at least I tried not to, use in Jesus’ name amen as a throw away phrase at the end of prayer. I told them. Don’t slur that. Don’t rush that. These words express something glorious and essential. We have no access to God without Christ and his name. And so when we pray in Jesus’ name we are saying that to the Father. I am coming not in my own name, not in my own merit, not in my own worth. I am coming because Christ loved me. Christ died for me. Christ rose for me. Christ intercedes for me. That is what that little phrase carries. And it is just huge.

And Paul draws in the third member of the trinity, right, in Ephesians 6:18. Praying at all times in the Spirit. Or Jude 1:20. You, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith praying in the Holy Spirit, which I think means realize that your heart would never have an inclination to pray to God for true blessing apart from the humbling, transforming, faith giving work of the Holy Spirit. So confess this. Say this to the Lord and to yourself. I rely upon the Holy Spirit when I pray in Jesus’ name to the Father. And, of course, Jesus put it totally plainly in John 15:16. Whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give it to you.

Now having said amen, that is the basic right, good tradition. I want to also say it is good and it is healthy to speak to Jesus as your friend and Savior and Lord and guide and to the Holy Spirit. Even though some manuscripts are different here, the best one, most of the modern translations translate John 14:14 like this. Jesus said: If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. And Revelation 22:20 we are speaking to Jesus when we say: He who testifies to these things says: Surely, I am coming soon. And we respond: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. Or 1 Corinthians 16:22. If anyone has no love for the Lord, let him be accursed. And then we talk to the Lord. Oh, Lord. Come. And, frankly, Tony, my own soul says: If I grieve the Holy Spirit which it says I do in Ephesians 4:30, if I grieve the Holy Spirit, I think I should say: I am sorry to the Holy Spirit. I mean, it is just strange if he is a person and I have grieved him that I would just ignore talking to him and go to the Father and say: I am sorry I grieved your Spirit. Well, that is ok, but there is something profound in the trinitarian reality of the personhood of the Son and the Spirit that we would treat them as persons.

So my conclusion is: Let your normal, regular praying be prayer to the Father through the Spirit in the name of Jesus, but realize that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are persons and to speak to them as a saved sinner would, cannot be unnatural.

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Și iată încă un răspuns frumos:

To Whom Should We Pray in the Godhead?

By David J. Stewart

       I don’t find any certain command in the Bible concerning which Person of the Godhead to pray to. Certainly, we must realize that to pray to Jesus, the Father, or the Holy Spirit is to pray to God, for there is only ONE God (Deuteronomy 6:4). The Apostle Paul speaks of the “mystery of God” in Colossians 2:2. The Godhead is a mystery indeed, but we believe it because the Bible teaches it, and the Holy Spirit bares witness with our spirit that it is true. God has manifest (or revealed) Himself to mankind in the Persons of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

I pray to all three Persons of the Godhead, usually depending on the circumstances. When I pray for guidance, comfort, or power, I usually pray to the Holy Spirit because the Bible mentions the Holy Spirit with those things. If I want something from God, I’ll usually pray to the Father, asking “In Jesus name” as the Gospel of John directs us to do so. Daily, I speak with the Lord Jesus, just as I would a friend, Who knows and understands what it means to suffer and be rejected and despised of men. I don’t think it really matters to which Person of the Godhead we choose to pray, just as long as we understand that we are praying to ONE God and that we must come to the Father through the Son, i.e., in Jesus’ name. Jesus said in John 14:6 that we must come to the Father through Him, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Jesus is one with the Father, and the Holy Spirit lives within the believer’s heart. The Holy Spirit is God within us. Thus, we pray TO the Father, THROUGH the Son, IN the Spirit.

This is not to say that we cannot pray directly to the Holy Spirit, knowing that He is the Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9), or that we cannot pray to the Son of God, Who is called the “Everlasting Father” in Isaiah 9:6. The Godhead (Trinity) is a mystery that unbelievers cannot grasp, because it is spiritually discerned. Unbelievers cannot reconcile their finite human thinking with the eternal truth of God. But as true Christians, we understand (1st Corinthians 2:14-17; Luke 7:35).

Here is a wonderful quote from Dr. Jack Hyles’ excellent book, EXPLORING PRAYER WITH JACK HYLES . . .

I remember one night years ago when Dr. John R. Rice and I were at a Bible conference together. Before he preached, he prayed something like this, “Oh, Father, breathe on me. Lord Jesus, help me to preach tonight. Holy Spirit, give me power.”

After the service a young preacher came to Dr. Rice and said, “You made a serious mistake while you prayed to God the Father, then you prayed to Jesus, then you prayed to the Holy Spirit.” He continued, “The proper procedure is to pray to the Father through the Son in the Spirit.”

Dr. Rice looked at him with a sheepish grin and replied, “Son, I’ve been in the family long enough until I know all of Them personally. I just talk to whichever One I need to talk to at the time.” The old giant patted the young man on the shoulder and went his way.

There is nothing wrong with the child of God saying, “Jesus, I love You,” “Father, supply my needs,” and “Holy Spirit, give me power.” Sometimes we can be so busy being theologically correct that we can be spiritually empty! Oh, for the heartbeat of the Christian faith! Oh, for the lilt and joy! Oh, for the tears and the burden! Oh, for the warmth and the tenderness!

SOURCE: Dr. Jack Hyles, EXPLORING PRAYER WITH JACK HYLES, chapter 35

The most important thing is that we understand it is only on the basis of Christ’s blood sacrifice that we are entitled to approach the throne of grace (Hebrews 4:15,16). Amen!

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